Chowder

Adaptación de reglas para elegir empresas a comprar en Older Folks portfolio:

"The criteria for purchase is that it must be up in share price year to date, or if down, it can only be down single digits. In other words, about 50% better performance than the S&P 500. It must be in the defensive sector and MUST be considered as having a “very safe” dividend rating by Simply Safe Dividends. … Those are the only qualifying criteria needed for purchase tomorrow.

I will be adding $10K to each position.
KMB … rating 88
PEP … rating 93
PG … rating 99
VZ … rating 87
WEC … rating 87
NEE … rating 99

I don’t care how large a position is currently, it’s going to get larger. I’m hunkering down on safe dividend income numbers to offset any cuts or suspensions that may be coming our way. Declining overall income for this portfolio is not acceptable. I will do what is necessary to see that it continues to grow, even under current market conditions."

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El momento “whatever it takes” de Chowder !!

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Para el caso haya recesión y en bolsa durante un tiempo vuelvan a haber cotizaciones que nos permitan comprar calidad a buenos precios. Se podrá volver a aplicar las reglas de Chowder.
Comentario de 2013 y complementado por un forero de Seeking Alpha.

“I notice that a lot of people are now referring to The Chowder Rule. I thought that as long as people are going to use it as a criteria in their stock selection, I would explain how and where it came from.
In order to understand the importance of The Chowder Rule, and how it relates to the stock selection process, one needs to understand the concept of dividend growth investing as I see it. One needs to understand what I was trying to accomplish and why. Once you understand this, you may be able to adjust the numbers to suite your needs, or accept it and apply it as it is.
When I discovered dividend growth investing I was surprised that there wasn’t a blue print to describe exactly what it was. I saw where people had various views or ideas of what dividend growth investing meant to them.
One concept I came across stated that any company whose expected long-term dividend growth rate exceeded its current yield, was a dividend growth stock. I can see that as workable, but it appears to have limitations. One would have to abandon owning high quality companies with high yields, yet low dividend growth rates. One might get caught up with owning mostly low yielding companies with high dividend growth rates that are unsustainable.
Keep in mind that there is usually a trade off between yield and dividend growth. My objective was to find a balance between the two.
I do prefer a long history of dividend growth over a short one. I do prefer more dividend growth over less. With the threat of higher interest rates affecting high yield companies, it is also plausible that high dividend growth will slow, and low dividend growth will freeze or decline. So again, I’m looking for balance between the two.
One of the problems with high dividend growth is that it eventually has to slow.
So in my opinion, I am better off trying to balance a high yield vs high dividend growth.
Another consideration about double digit dividend growth is the base from which it began. If a company started with a dividend of 2 cents, it wouldn’t be difficult to grow at double digits and it wouldn’t have much of an impact on the income stream either. Also, keep an eye on the payout ratio. Just make sure it isn’t astronomically high in order to provide dividend growth. A company can’t continue raising the payout ratio, so something has to give.
One thought that had an impact in applying The Chowder Rule was a stock that yields 1% has to raise its dividend 20% to generate the same dollar increase in annual income that another stock yielding 4% can achieve with a mere 5% hike.
Which growth rate is more realistically expected to be maintained over long time frames?
Most of the principles and concepts I apply have been taken from the book, “The Single Best Investment” by Lowell Miller.
According to Miller, the hidden key to the single best investment is dividend growth. The reason dividend growth is so important for long-term investors is because dividend growth is what drives the compounding machine in a way that is certain and inevitable. Dividend growth is an authoritative force that compels higher returns regardless of other factors affecting the stock market.
An important point is that an instrument that produces income is valued based on the amount of income it produces. The more income it produces, the more valuable the asset.
Keep in mind, you not only receive greater income as the years go by, you also get a rising stock price because the asset producing the income is worth more as the income it produces increases.
Stop and think about it for a minute. When you look at the long dividend growth history of companies like KO, PG and JNJ, if share price didn’t keep up with dividend growth, they would have yields of 10%, 15% or more – and the market isn’t going to allow that to happen.
(The following paragraph is the essence of The Chowder Rule!)
So in effect, you get a “double dip” when you invest in high yield stocks that have high rising dividends. You get the income that increases to meet or surpass inflation, and you get the effect of that rising income on the stock price, which is to force price higher.
Dividend growth investing to me means that I am creating a compounding machine, not playing the market. Dividend growth is the energy that drives that machine.
In the book, “What Works on Wall Street” by James O’Shaughnessey, he states … “It’s impossible to monkey with a dividend yield.” The author found that high yield was a much more effective factor in stock price performance when what he calls “large” stocks are studied. Among large stocks, he found that the highest-yielding stocks out-performed the overall universe 91% of the time over all rolling ten year periods.
Miller/Howard Investments revisited the issue of high yield and dividend growth with the help of Ford Investor Services, an institutional database and research organization based in San Diego. Using their data base going back to 1970, they found that high-yield stocks outperform the market over long periods on both an absolute and a risk-adjusted basis. The key is to own quality! … (I hope you got that.)
Once you understand the concept, the next step is to come up with a plan of action.
This leads to a formula I adopted. I call it "The Success Formula That Never Fails."
High Quality + High Current Yield + High Growth of Yield = High Total Return.
High Quality is defined as having superior financial strength. A company must have a 1 or 2 rating for Safety with Value Line, or a BBB+ rating or better with S&P. Both of these Financial Strength ratings indicate investment grade quality. … Anything that doesn’t meet the High Quality definition is considered speculation and managed differently within the portfolio.
High Current Yield is defined as a yield that is at least 50% above the yield offered by the S&P 500. Therefore, if the S&P 500 has a 2% yield, then 3% is the minimum number for purchase under the formula stated above.
High Growth of Yield is defined as companies that raise their dividend at a rate of 5% or more.
With the “Success Formula” in hand, I needed to come up with a way for it to support my long-term objectives.
My long-term objective is to grow the portfolio at an 8% compounded annual growth rate (OTCPK:CAGR). I decided I would try to take advantage of total dividend return, current yield plus a 5 year CAGR to help support my long-term 8% CAGR objective. This total dividend return concept was dubbed The Chowder Rule by a Contributor on Seeking Alpha by the name of J.D. Welch.
Since High Current Yield called for a 3% minimum yield, based on the 50% above the S&P 500 yield concept, Howard Miller’s 5% annual dividend growth minimum, when added to the yield came out to 8%. That was exactly what my long-term goals were and I established those goals before I read Miller’s book.
I then decided I would place a “moat” around that 8% number as a margin of safety because I knew as price rises, yields come down and the original Chowder Rule number will as well.
I thought I would go 50% higher and came up with a Chowder Rule number of 12% as a total return objective. .… If others want to adjust the number to meet their objectives, that’s fine. As long as it supports what it is you are trying to do, you’ll get no argument from me. … Ha!
Anyway, that 12% total dividend return number is now referred to as The Chowder Rule by many. So basically, if a stock has a 3% yield, I need a 5 year dividend growth rate of 9% to get my 12% number. If a stock has a 4% yield, I only need an 8% dividend growth rate.
For example:
CVX has a yield of 3.1% and a 5 year CAGR of 9.13%. When added together, I get a Chowder Rule number of 12.23%. … It qualifies for purchase as long as the fundamentals and valuations meet your standards.
As I delved deeper into the concept of dividend growth investing, I realized I needed to focus on the safety of the dividend first. As I researched, I found that a lot of companies with solid dividends weren’t able to grow their business like a lot of other companies, so their dividend growth may not be as robust. Utility companies are a good example of this.
Since my long-term goal is to achieve an 8% CAGR, I thought I would use that number for utility companies since it still supported my objective. I include telecom and MLP’s under the utility umbrella. So for example, D has a yield of 3.4% and a 5 year CAGR of 6.99%, giving me a Chowder Rule number of 10.39%. It qualifies for purchase as long as the fundamentals and valuations meet your standards.
I know there are those who wish to own companies with yields below 3%, yet have higher dividend growth. I’m not opposed to this, but keep in mind, the lower the yield, the more you must rely on capital appreciation to achieve High Total Return.
I decided that if I’m willing to accept a yield below 3%, I must require a higher dividend growth rate. I needed a higher Chowder Rule number to serve as a margin of safety. I decided to use 15% for companies yielding less than 3%.
So for example:
DE has a yield of 2.4% and a 5 year CAGR of 13.84% for a Chowder Rule number of 16.24%. It qualifies for purchase as long as the fundamentals and valuations meet your standards.
Again, these numbers were designed around my long-term objectives. If your goals are different, you can adjust the numbers any way you wish as long as they support your goal. Just keep in mind that the lower the yield, the more you must rely on price appreciation.
I applied The Chowder Rule as a way to take the pressure off of price appreciation. I was looking for the “double dip” balance. <<<”

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Y por que no un índice Chowder Compliance?

Porque para aplicarlo requiere una corrección de mercado del 20%, (digamos que hacen falta los precios de mediados de Marzo).
Pero aquí tienes una buen listado. CDN es “Chowder Number”.

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Muchas gracias por la tabla, Luis. ¿Puedes indicar quien es el autor de la misma? Por entender cuál es el criterio para elegir esas empresas y no otras.

Hace poco compartieron una lista similar de aristócratas del dividendo y aunque algunas coinciden otras muchas no.

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La tabla es de FerdiS.

Te paso el enlace.

Y aquí su blog.

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Bueno, Chowder ha puesto su cartera actual (en Older Folk Portfolio).

"I am drawing about 40% of my dividends on a monthly basis because I too built a margin of income safety. Maybenot has commented on my personal portfolio here and in the Chit Chat Blog confirming how I circled the wagons and went all in on defensive companies and then added some CEF’s which I have also shared.
I have continued to build the consumer staples and utilities in my personal portfolio and will continue to do so. Those and JNJ are the only companies I have been adding to and will continue to do so.
O and NNN are my only holdings not in the Defensive sector. I consider T and VZ as defensive and hold both of them.
Now if someone is drawing all of their dividends, then move on, there’s nothing here for you, and my focus here is in helping those still trying to get to that point. I’m not here to satisfy all of the people all of the time.
My personal holdings …
KMB … GIS … PG … KO
D … SO … NEE … WEC … XEL
JNJ
T … VZ
O … NNN
I decided to build these in size as opposed to a bunch of smaller positions.
Of lesser size are the CEF’s …
DNP … EOS … ETO … ETV … EXG … GAB … IGA … PTY … UTG
About 2/3’s in equities, 1/3 in CEF’s. I’m not adding to CEF’s at this time, I’m building the defensive positions up even more, and if there is one thing I have been very consistent about, it’s building positions up in size.
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Everything above my monthly withdrawal gets reinvested into C-Corp positions.

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Guau! 1/3 de la cartera en CEFs :scream:

Concepto interesante es el que él llama “margen de seguridad”.
Ha elevado tanto el dividendo y sigue revirtiendo, que sólo necesita el 40% de lo recibido para vivir bien.
Ya puede venir lo que sea, que está bien seguro. En cualquier caso, no baja la guardia y ahora se dedica a aumentar las compañías que anuncian aumento de dividendo (así lo asegura por 1 año más).

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Eso es clave a mi entender. No sé si el señor Sopa de pescado sigue trabajando en otra cosa que no sea administrar carteras, entiendo que no, yo no le veo sentido con semejante margen de seguridad.
Yo en estos casos es cuando veo clara la diferencia entre ser IF o vivir totalmente de las rentas sin recibir un pago a cambio de tu tiempo.

Muchos podrán ser IF pero pocos serán FIRE.

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Al menos algunos podremos ser FIRED :sweat_smile:

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Solo 14 acciones de 4 sectores :open_mouth:

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Creía recordar que llevaba CVS, o es la del hijo?

Hay dos blogs diferentes: Young folks (pone de ejemplo la composiciòn y movimientos en la cartera de su hijo) y Older Folk people (pone de ejemplo una cartera de las que administra, con valor de unos 5M).
CVS está en la de su hijo.
La que he puesto es “La Cartera de Chowder”, que ha colgado porque le han preguntado en uno de los blogs.

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:scream: :raised_hands:

I went nearly 100% invested on March 23 and March 24 putting over $100K to work that was taken in profits weeks earlier. Those real time calls are still listed up higher in this comment stream.

I didn’t know it at the time, but I nailed the bottom and didn’t allow the fears and anxiety of others to affect my game plan.

Of course the market could always set new lows, and if it does, I’ll buy more, but I learned a long time ago, don’t fight the Fed.

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Bueno, ese comentario lo tenía que hacer en esas fechas, no ahora cuando todo ha subido. Para mi ahora no tiene valor alguno, independientemente de que sea verdad o no.

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Comentario en “Young Folks Portfolio”

“I have been through 4 major market corrections. The first was 1987, the next was the tech crash of 2000-2001, the next was The Great Recession of 2008-2009 and now The Great Crash.
During the first two major corrections I allowed the doom and gloom, and fear of others to influence me and I ended up locking in losses near the market lows. It was a mistake both times, mistakes I promised myself I wouldn’t repeat.
During the Great Recession I stuck with my plan and instead of selling, I kept buying on a regularly scheduled basis. It was one of my smartest moves as an investor.
Every great correction in the history of the market has been a temporary correction and has been followed up with the market going on to set new highs.
The Great Crash is no different in my mind with regard to market psychology, the only difference is the cause of it which will also pass in time.
I am not selling anything or trimming anything during The Great Crash and in fact, continue to buy on a regularly scheduled basis. As soon as this Young Folk Portfolio has enough cash to make another purchase, it will be made. This portfolio remains 100% invested.
The only thing I have changed so far is that I have all industrial’s on dividend reinvestment and most of the others I collect the dividends in cash, so it takes a little longer to generate enough cash to make another purchase.
I believe the best piece of advice I can offer is to stick with the plan of buying quality and trust in the process. Don’t make the mistake I made during my first 2 major market corrections. The market will eventually continue higher.”

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Algo de market timing…

The count of drilling rigs active in the U.S. falls by 57 on top of last week’s decline of 64, dropping the total to 408 for the sixth consecutive decline in Baker Hughes’ weekly survey.
This reminds me of about 20 years ago when I was looking to invest in the energy sector. Then, like now, the rig count kept dropping week after week after week. Oil prices got down to about $10 per barrel. Every Friday afternoon, around 2 PM, the chat group I was in at the time sat around waiting on the Baker Hughes rig count. The plan was to go all in on energy when the rig count started rising. I did just that! I went 100% into energy stocks at the time and it was one of my better investment ideas ever.
I don’t plan on going all in with energy this time, but this portfolio does own CVX, XOM and KMI. When I start seeing the rig count rising, you can bet I’ll be adding to CVX and XOM and I’ll add in size, provided they are still paying a dividend at the time.”

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A mi me parece una genialidad el ponerse a contar torres de extracción en esos años,

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