Me presento, soy Vash y soy IF

Un 3% de la compañía por 100K implica un market cap de Apple en ese fecha de poco más de 3 millones de USD. Comprando empresas del SP500 o del FTSE100 no vamos a pegar un pelotazo así jamás.
Ni siquiera yendo a algunos índices de small caps llegamos a esas capitalizaciones tan bajas.

The most widely recognized definitions of small-, large- and mid-cap stocks are probably those used by Standard & Poor’s . Its large-cap index, the S&P 500, appears daily on the front page of newspaper business sections and the home page of financial websites. To be included in the S&P 500, a company must have a market cap of at least $8.2 billion . At the small-cap end of the scale, Standard & Poor’s offers the S&P SmallCap 600.

To be included, a company must have a market cap of $300 million to $1.4 billion. And in the middle is the S&P MidCap 400. Companies in this index must have a market cap of $1.4 billion to $5.9 billion. Notice that S&P’s mid-cap range overlaps both the high end of the small-cap range and the low end of the large-cap range. Stock classification systems invariably include overlap.

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Seessel, Adam. Barron’s (Online); New York (Jul 9, 2019).

When I was a junior analyst at Sanford Bernstein nearly 25 years ago, our betters drummed into our heads that everything in the investment world went back to normal and that John Templeton was right when he said that the four most expensive words in the English language were “this time it’s different.” Bernstein had a sophisticated computer model that we referred to as the black box; its job was to tell us worker bees the most statistically cheap sectors every month. Like good worker bees, we would more or less automatically buy the stocks in those sectors and sell stocks in the most expensive sectors. The black box minted money for the firm and its clients for decades, precisely because everything did eventually return to normal. Cheap auto stocks appreciated to fair value, expensive tech stocks returned to average, and the investing world was good—safe and predictable. It was indeed dangerous to think “this time it’s different.”

Today, however, five of the world’s six largest companies by market value are tech companies. Most of them weren’t even born when Bernstein laid down its law. As for returning to normal, does anyone really believe that is going to happen, for example, to Amazon.com or Alphabet? E-commerce and digital advertising still have only a small share of their global market, despite nearly a generation of growth. Other industries—ride-sharing,onlinelending, and renewable energy—are smaller still, but also show every sign of being long-term winners. How are these sectors going to somehow revert to the mean? Conversely, how will legacy sectors that lose share to these disruptors return to their normal growth trajectory?

Digital, wireless, and other disruptive technologies are changing our economy in ways that nobody fully understands, but one thing is increasingly clear: Old-economy sectors like retail and financials are cheap not for short-term, cyclical reasons—they are cheap for long-term, secular ones. As a result, exchange-traded-fund investors should think twice before buying sectors that look statistically cheap, but are exposed to secular risk. When rebalancing portfolios, it often will be a mistake to trim the expensive sectors to buy the cheap ones. And even if an investor decides to overweight industries on the right side of history, caveat emptor: Some ETFs in growth sectors have considerably more exposure to legacy firms than others.

I am a bottom-up stockpicker, but from my days at Bernstein I understand and sympathize with those who make sector bets. Consider this a warning from your stock-picking cousin who’s spent time exploring the frontier of the early 21st century economy. Things look very different than they did 25 or even 10 years ago. Sector bets must be placed accordingly.

Retail’s challenges in the face of Amazon are well-known, but many other, less obvious sectors are at risk, as well. The energy industry, especially large, legacy fossil-fuel companies, faces multiple headwinds in the form of shale technologies, wind, and solar energy rapidly coming down the cost curve—and, of course, there’s vehicle electrification. Autos themselves have many challenges: Bloombeg Businessweek recently ran a cover story on “peak car,” calling the automobile “the killer transportation app of the 20th century.” Even sectors that many investors consider rock solid are showing signs of cracks. Legacy financials are still well loved by value investors, but financial-technology companies have gone from accounting for a zero percent share of U.S. personal loans to nearly 40% in a decade. They were born online, have slick mobile interfaces, are customer-friendly, and have much less bureaucracy than legacy banks. Quicken Loans now ranks among the nation’s largest mortgage lenders; it says you can get a Quicken mortgage two to three times faster than from a legacy bank.

From both a top-down or a bottom-up perspective, it’s easy to see that the investment implications are profound. David Giroux, a portfolio manager for T. Rowe Price and the firm’s chief investment officer of U.S. Equity and Multi-Asset, puts each company in the S&P 500 through what he calls a secular-risk analysis four times a year. When he started the process five years ago, he and his team found that companies representing 20% of the S&P’s market capitalization faced threats from sea changes in the economy. Today, Giroux estimates, that figure is more than 30%. In a few years, he says, it could be 40% to 50%.

“When I was an associate analyst in 1998, I covered digital-imaging stocks like Xerox and Kodak, and those certainly had their challenges,” Giroux says. “But the overall disruption in the economy was not large, even when I became a portfolio manager in 2006. Since then, however, more and more companies have got caught up in secular challenges—and that trend is not abating; it’s getting stronger.”

Giroux is applying this research as the stock-picking manager of the T Rowe Price Capital Appreciation fund (ticker: PRWCX) with impressive results: Since 2006, it has delivered 108% of the market’s return after fees, despite running a balanced strategy averaging only 60% to 65% equity exposure. But his secular-risk analysis contains important information for ETF investors. One obvious implication is that ETF investors should overweight sectors that are going to be secular gainers and underweight those that are falling behind. In 1990, the information-technology sector was roughly 6% of the S&P’s market value as defined by the Global Industry Classification Standard; today, it’s 21%. Aerospace and Defense, a subgroup of GICS’ industrial sector, also has tailwinds: The number of miles flown by commercial aircraft has grown at roughly twice the rate of worldwide gross domestic product over the past 50 years, yet 80% of the world’s population has still not set foot in an airplane.

This same binary, growing-or-dying mind-set should apply when rebalancing sector allocations. Sectors that appear cheap, but are secularly disadvantaged, will get cheaper. Telecom is a good example. In the early 1990s, it was nearly 10% of the S&P’s market cap and bigger than the IT sector. Thanks to serial technological disruptions, however, what was once the nation’s communications backbone represented a mere 2% of the S&P’s market value last year. Telecom has become such a small part of the U.S. economy’s value that, last fall, S&P and MSCI, which jointly own the GICS classification system, abolished telecom as one of 11 major sectors.

Finally, and perhaps least obviously, even if you decide to invest in secular growth sectors, it is not a good idea to blindly buy an ETF just because its name sounds like it will provide the exposure you want. Consider the ETF industry’s two biggest tech funds: Because they chose to include different underlying sectors at inception, they have had widely divergent long-term performance. Morningstar data show that a $1 million investment in the Vanguard Information Technology Index fund (VGT) would have returned an investor $5.59 million over the past 15 years—but that same $1 million in the Technology Select Sector SPDR ETF (XLK) would have returned $5.04 million, or $550,000 less. That’s a shocking gap, largely attributable to a decision made by the SPDR’s creator, State Street Global Advisors. When it created the security back in the late 1990s, State Street included the ill-fated telecom sector. Vanguard based its ETF on only the GICS IT sector—the same sector that grew from 6% to 21% of the S&P’s market cap over the past generation.

This discrepancy has been remedied; with the abolishment of the telecom sector last year, State Street now relies solely on the GICS IT sector, as does Vanguard.

For many years, the person in charge of Bernstein’s black box was CEO Lew Sanders. Sanders left the firm a decade ago and started his own shop, Sanders Capital, which now runs more than $25 billion, mostly in global equities. A year or two ago, I looked up Sanders Capital’s largest holdings. I was beginning to believe that reversion to the mean was largely defunct as an investment construct, and I suppose I wanted to check myself against the keeper of the mean-reversion flame.

Four of Sanders’ five largest positions were tech companies. These included Alphabet (GOOG) and Microsoft (MSFT), and they remain in his top five today. Both trade for mid-to-high 20s multiples of earnings, and, as such, they are definitely not statistically cheap. On the other hand, neither shows any sign of reversion to the mean. Digital advertising currently represents well under half of total worldwide marketing spend. Cloud computing currently handles only 10% to 15% of the daily IT workload. This time really does seem different.

Adam Seessel is the founder and CEO of Gravity Capital Management in New York. Gravity had a position in Alphabet when this article was published.

Email: editors@barrons.com

Credit: By Adam Seessel

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Ajustados a la inflación desde hace 25 años esto queda en:
$8.2 billones americanos ===>$3.27 billones americanos
$5.9 billones americanos ===>$2.35 billones americanos
$1.4 billones americanos ===>$557 millones
$300 millones ===>$119.5 millones

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Resumen: esta vez es diferente. :thinking:

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y resumiendo en español…

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El mundo no esta de moda

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Elegi un buen dia para volver a fumar

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Tu tabaquera se ha desatado… enhorabuena!!

Ya llevo tiempo dandole vueltas a esto, la moda son las empresas de calidad, calidad a cualquier precio y calidad entendida como ROIC > WACC, el value no esta de moda, la valoracion ya no importa aunque @alvaromusach nos regale articulos para aprender a valorar empresas. Sin embargo el ROIC tampoco es una constante. Hoy se ve a Microsoft como una Wide moat stock de calidad excelente pero hace 10 años el ROIC de Microsoft era lamentable destinando capital a Nokia, Windows Phone, etc.

Y de casualidad me encuentro con este articulo en twitter que nos dice que el ROIC tambien sufre el retorno a la media y que al final es mejor comprar barato que comprar calidad aunque Terry Smith se empeñe en demostrarnos lo contrario dia tras dia en los ultimos años.

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Nuevamente food for thought

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Por poner una nota, creo que vivimos una época de Revolución Tecnologíca que hace 20 o 30 años ni se atisbaba.

Sumado a la globalización y los excesos de liquidez por sucesivos QE’s han distorsionado mucho la Inversión.

Microsoft medio rescató a una Apple quebrada. Absorbe Nokia y es Google la que crea Android en 2008!
(Se me quedó una frase).
Nadie se acuerda de Symbian ya.

El 2000 empezó un milenio muy interesante.

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Aqui la explicacion de porque no considero a Berkshire, PG, JNJ, KO, PEP, etc value puro y duro

59% of S&P 500 Growth constituents are also in the S&P 500 Value index; conversely, 45% of the value constituents are in the growth index.

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buenas noches vash, acudo a ti como el gran gurú de la nicotina, pero cualquier adepto tb me pude contestar… :joy:
cuál es la compañía q más cuota de mercado tiene en África?? ?

muchas gracias!!!

Carta del 2T de Bestinver

El periodo actual nos recuerda a la década de los 70. El “ Nifty fifty ” fue un grupo de compañías que se convirtieron en las favoritas de los inversores por sus récords de crecimiento, incrementos de dividendos y alta capitalización bursátil. Eran compañías como Xerox, IBM, Polaroid o Coca-Cola . Las llegaron a llamar las compañías de una sola decisión: comprar y nunca vender . Se pagaban precios desorbitados, cuando el mercado americano cotizaba a un múltiplo de PER de entorno a 19 veces, el conjunto de estas compañías más que duplicaba este número (entre las más disparadas: Polaroid con un PER de 91, McDonald’s, 86; Walt Disney, 82; y Avon Products, 65). Estas compañías se dispararon durante la década de los 70 hasta la llegada del crash del mercado en el 74. A partir de ahí, estas compañías de “ comprar y nunca vender ” empezaron a caer en picado y el 90% de ellas tuvo retornos negativos en los 9 años siguientes . De media, el retorno fue de -46% . Como nos decía Howard Marks en una de sus cartas, lo que hoy es una buena compañía, no significa que mañana lo vaya a seguir siendo, y mucho menos que sea una buena inversión .

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Beyond comienza a hacer pfffffff

¿Pero se mojan diciendo que compañías son las nuevas “Nifty fifty” en el momento presente?

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Ponen algun ejemplo:

Compañías como Diageo, Nestlé, LVMH, L’Oreal, etc., han subido en algunos casos más de un 40% en lo que llevamos de año, disparando sus múltiplos de valoración, llegando a pagarse más de 30 o hasta 40 veces los beneficios por estas compañías. Por no mencionar las conocidas compañías tecnológicas como Amazon o Netflix , con unos múltiplos de 80 y hasta 100 veces respectivamente.

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Estando como están esas compañías cotizando a múltiplos muy exigentes y probablemente sobrevaloradas, no entiendo que necesidad tienen de exagerar los datos.

Obtenido de M*.

Diageo: PER 26.43
Nestlé: PER 29.24
LVMH: 27.52
L’Oreal: 33.82

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Y amazon…pues sí, cotiza a unos múltiplos muy altos, PER de 76. Imagino que esto la descarta inmediatamente para una inversión value. De todas formas, no me atrevería yo a decir que no merezca cotizar a estos múltiples. Echemos un vistazo rápido a algunos de los datos en sus cuentas de los últimos años:

Ingresos: 2016 135,000 m$; 2017 177,000 m$; 2018 232,000 m$. Un incremento del 31% en los ingresos en el último año.

EBITDA: 2016 12,492 m$; 2017 16,132 m$; 2018 28,019 m$. Un incremento del 73% en el EBITDA en el último año.

Free Cash Flow: 2016 9,706 m$; 2017 6,479 m$; 2018 17,296 m$. Un incremento del 166% en el FCF en el último año.

WOW. Simplemente WOW. ¿Que cotiza a unos múltiplos exigentes? Seguro. Pero, ¿y si mantiene este crecimiento unos años más?

Si la queremos comparar con las nifty fifty habría que comprobar si IBM, KO o Xerox tenían este tipo de crecimiento en ingresos, beneficios y FCF.

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Eso es mentira, ninguna llega a las 40 veces. Y las 30 veces muy justito y solo en el caso de L’Oreal.

Que si, que puedo comprarles el relato, pero como siempre exagerando todo. Y luego, mira el FCF de LVMH, el crecimiento de ventas, de EPS, sin prácticamente deuda…y que hace pocos meses estuvo cotizando a 240€, vamos, muy cercano a PER 20 y ninguno se les ocurrió ni mínimamente considerar la entrada.

Menudo rollo que se gastan.

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Releyendo los datos de Amazon, y poniéndome en modo @alvaromusach :wink:

Con un crecimiento de 2017 a 2018 del 31% en los ingresos, 73% en EBITDA y 166% en FCF. ¿Estará AMZN mejorando sus márgenes? Parece que si:

Operating margin: 2017 2.31%; 2018 5.33%; Year to Date: 6.10%

Aumenta ingresos al treinta y tantos por ciento y duplica márgenes…vaya tela. ¿nos arrepentiremos dentro de 10 años de no haber entrado por debajo de los 2,000 USD?

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